Doctrine of Suffering

Hebrews 6:2   OF the Doctrine of baptism(s)

Suffering Foundational to Christian Living

But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able.

And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with:

The CROSS, a baptism of suffering.  He who knew no sin was made to BE sin for us

In some way he became every vile despicable sin known to mankind, including our own vile disgusting unregenerate sins?  What suffering for the Only Begotten to carry on our behalf, as it is written:  For the JOY that was set before him, he Despised The SHAME of the Cross.  For You and I.

Short Note: The Two disciples who wanted to drink of the cup and baptism of suffering.  When is the Last time you heard suffering preached about?  A foundation of the doctrine Of Messiah Yeshua [the Lord Jesus]

 For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing. For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

It CAN be the Will of GOD for us to suffer for well doing….

 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you;

but rejoice inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings, that, when His glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.

Any pastors out there who can unpack the above, your help would be appreciated.  Rejoice — Rejoice ??  inasmuch as ye are   partakers of  Christ’s sufferings, that, when His glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.

Almost sounds like we are Called to suffer.


Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

Ahh, we get down to it.  IF we    live godly    in Christ Jesus we shall suffer persecution.

Not being a pastor, not sure how one would present this to a fold.  A measure of godly living is whether you suffer persecution.  WHO 😊 wants to be persecuted?

Oh, a disciple is willing.

But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able.

And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with:

Note for pastors:

Would this apply?  If I or anyone is not embraced with an understanding of the doctrine of Christ, in this case, the doctrine of suffering — is this why some fall away?

 And some fell upon a rock; and as soon as it was sprung up, it withered away, because it lacked moisture.

They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.

Feed my sheep HE said.  Feed my lambs HE said.